A few years ago, I was standing in line at a computer/electronics store behind a gentleman who was holding a copy of popular personal tax preparation software. He was gushing to his friend how much money he was going to save by preparing his own returns, rather than taking it to the “tax man.” I wondered, to myself, if he meant he would save on professional fees, or if he meant that the software would, for example, find additional deductions that his tax preparer might otherwise overlook. The gentleman went on to say that he was sure that this software would put tax preparers out of business “really soon!” I couldn’t resist, so I asked him who he used for tax preparation services. He answered, “H & R Block.” I asked further if he wouldn’t mind telling me what he had meant by saving lots of money. He responded that he paid H & R Block $120 to prepare his return last year, and the software was only $30. Also, the software had some nifty-neat “hidden deduction finder” to suss out ever last dollar of deductions. I thanked him for talking to me, and the clerk checked him out.
That was some time ago, and I’ve still got quite a few clients. And my hourly rate is substantially more than the $120 he was paying H & R Block for his return. The point of that story, though, is that for sophisticated business taxpayers, software doesn’t hold all of the answers. I don’t foresee a time when professional judgement will be replicated by tax preparation software. How does this all relate to the Guru?
Recently, the Guru posted about a question from a reader:
I am an equal partner of a 3 member LLC (taxed as a partnership). I purchased a large SUV (over 6000 lbs) in August, 2004. I made this purchase with my own money primarily for my business activities on a daily basis, but figured it would be a good vehicle to have for certain personal usage (family vacation). My question is this:
Can I deduct the 84% usage on this vehicle as a Section 179 deduction? If so, where do I make this deduction (what form)? Do I simply adjust line 17 on the 1040 or must I make this deduction on another line?
This is certainly a fair question, and one that arises from time to time in my own practice.
The Guru responds:
Unreimbursed expenses that you pay on behalf of your LLC, including Section 179 and other vehicle costs, can be claimed on Page 2 of Schedule E on a line right under where the LLC K-1 info is shown.
This has long been a very basic part of tax return preparation. If your personal tax advisor was unaware of this, it may be time to look for someone with a better understanding of how to handle pass-through entities.
It’s a good thing I keep a supply of Irony Meters around, because the Guru blew up one of them with that last part. “…[L]ook for someone with a better understanding of how to handle pass-through entities.” In that case, I would suggest looking for someone who is not the Guru.
The reader has a followup question:
I assume you were referring to Schedule E, Page 2, Line 28 (i) under Section 179 expense deduction from Form 4562. So even though I would list my LLC’s name, I would go ahead and list the K-1 info as well as my own section 179 deduction on the same line? That’s where the confusion lies and why no tax preparer (and I’ve asked plenty) here can seem to give me a straight answer. Some say that Unreimbursed expenses must fall under the condition: To be deductible, the partnership agreement must state in writing that the partner pay the expenses.
The problem is that I purchased this Large SUV at my own discretion, as I felt it would make my job easier as well as come in handy for the rare trips my wife and I make. Under these conditions, can I still claim this, even if it’s not in the partnership agreement?
The Guru responds:
I’m not sure why this is so confusing to tax pros. For as long as I can remember, my tax software has had an option to code business expenses, including depreciation and Section 179, to a K-1 activity. It then prepares the appropriate backup schedules, including the 4562 for depreciation and Sec. 179, and prints the total on page 2 of the Sch. E, on a separate line under the info from the K-1.
Ah, so now we understand. The Guru argues that if the software will let you do it, it must be proper. Going back to what I wrote before, the value of using a professional advisor isn’t in his having expensive software, it’s his (or her) knowledge and experience.
In truth, I could make GoSystem (the tax software we use) do just about anything. But just because I can get the software to produce a particular result, doesn’t make it proper. There are two particular things that make me sure he’s dead wrong here. The first is what we call “authority.” In this case, the U.S. Tax Court has already decided a case with similar facts, so that’s “authority.” Second, McKee, Nelson & Whitmire are pretty clear on the matter.
The Tax Court held in Frederick S. Klein, 25 TC 1045 (1956) held that if partnership agreement or partnership practice requires partner to bear certain types of partnership business expenses out of partner’s funds, partner is entitled to § 162 deductions for such expenses; not subject to § 67(a) floor; however, partner cannot deduct expenses for which he was entitled to, but failed to seek, reimbursement. The IRS has ruled the same, following Klein in Tech. Adv. Mem. 9316003 (Dec. 23, 1992) ; Tech. Adv. Mem. 9330004 (Apr. 14, 1993) Tech. Adv. Mem. 9330001 (Apr. 1, 1993).
Finally, McKee, Nelson & Whitmire tell us:
Similarly, partnership expenses are deductible only by the partnership, and not by the partners, even though one partner furnishes the cash to pay the expense, unless the partnership agreement specifically requires a partner to pay certain expenses from his own funds.
The base their analysis on
Klein.
Now, reasonable people might counter that McKee, Nelson & Whitmire’s writings aren’t authority any more than the Guru’s. Their treatise, Federal Income Taxation of Partnerships and Partners is cited by the courts. I don’t think the Guru is.